Sat 07/09/2013       
Round 1: Foursomes                                               Round 2: Scotch Foursomes       
10.00 – 10.10 Cork & Louth    
                               13.45 – 13.55 Cork & Louth       
10.15 – 10.25 Dublin & Down    
                            14.00 – 14.10 Dublin & Down       
10.30 – 10.40 Longford & Westmeath  
               14.15 – 14.25 Longford & Westmeath      10.45 – 10.55 Meath & Kerry                                 14.30 – 14.40 Meath & Kerry       
11.00 – 11.20 Limerick & Kildare & Waterford    14.45 – 15.05 L/rick, K/dare, W/ford       
11.25 – 11.35 Clare & Offaly    
                              15.10 – 15.20    Clare    Offaly       
11.40 – 11.50 Wexford & Tipperary    
                  15.25 – 15.35    Wexford    Tipperary    
 
Sun 08/09/2013       
For Sundays play teams will be placed in reverse order with the top teams going out last.
The Singles on Sunday will be three balls.
Gent’s Tee-times:

Round 1: 08.30 – 10.55
Round 2: 12.30 – 14.55
    


What really makes the Gents National Inter-county Championship exciting is that really if you take Ray Murphy (and JJ Walsh to a lesser extent) aside, few players have shone this year on a consistent level, and when you apply that theory to teams of 6, the unpredictability levels get higher than a hippie at Glastonbury.

Senior Pitch and Putt is going through something of a sea-change this year. Some of the older heads are on the wane, the reliable that you expected to last forever. They’ve been replaced by the former rookies that have grown comfortable in their senior surroundings, the inconsistent players that are now the foundation of Championships and scratch cups across the PPUI landscape. And they in turn have been replaced by the latest crop of younger kids, eager to make an indentation on the Irish landscape. The world keeps on spinning.

Cork by sheer virtue of their strong 4 start out as favourites, but they are not the raging hot favourites they have been in other years. I was certain last year that they would not leave Slaneyside as Champions; I just didn’t fully trust that Wexford would beat them. Dublin felt aggrieved following the decision to not halt play during the deluge, and will surely use that as a weapon to fire them on again. On paper, there isn’t a front four elsewhere to match the Cork quartet of Murphy, Walsh, Scannell and Dunscombe. But paper only tells half the story....

In what is sure to make the weekend seem that little bit more surreal on Saturday morning Cork opens this Championship, playing alongside Louth. Both were impressive performers in the Provincial Inter-Counties, again both winning well on home soil, Louth comfortable enough in the end despite a late surge by Dublin. In truth Cork were never in danger in St Anne’s.
It is going to be interesting to see what way Cork handle being out first, in what is an unusual position for them to be in. Regularly used to knowing what scores are in the clubhouse, and knowing what needs to be reached to achieve success, they now have to play the course to begin with, and start with the discipline that favours them the least – foursomes.
And let’s be honest about this too, this Cork team is weakened by the loss of Paudie O’Sullivan. He has become an anchor of the team, and given the inexperienced duo that brings up the tail of the Cork team, the chasing pack should be sniffing blood.  This is a pressure and a responsibility that both Doolin or Duggan will not have experienced before, and if I was on one of the chasers I’d be looking at the Munster scores in the singles as a source of encouragement. I’m convinced that if Cork do not start well in the Foursomes, that they’re gonners. Hillview is not going to lend itself well to any nervousness or trepidation, and I wouldn’t like to be chasing a score going into Sunday.

It’s hard to know what to say about Louth. They did well in Cement, without pulling up any trees, and I think they’ll struggle somewhat to break into the group that will challenge on Sunday. In hindsight it was wrong not to predict that they’d win in Cement, which is such a specialist home track, and given how upset some of the Westmeath players were at being ranked as favourites going in (After play Alan Hanlon was particularly cranky at my ranking) I’d wonder did they use the perceived put-down as ammunition?
In Goggin they have one of the games standout performers of this decade so far. He leads by example and is always to be relied upon by Louth. Never one to be fazed by pressure or the extra weight a diamante-encrusted county jersey brings (now to be known as the Rhinestone Cowboy), he will be central to Louth’s challenge. Like Cork, they will be judged by how well Shane Redmond and Feichin Rath perform. Redmond needs to settle down, get used to playing amongst the big boys and taking his chances when they present themselves, or to keep calm when they don’t, because at times it will be how he reacts when the chips are down that will decide where he ends up in the game. And there is likely to be trouble at some point over the weekend if the course is playing as tough as it sounds.

I wasn’t overly impressed with the Dublin team when I saw it named. It didn’t jump off the page as a team that was particularly tough to beat, and probably worse, it didn’t really strike me as a team, rather a collection of individuals. That’s ok for Cork, they have the medals that allows you to be an individual, but Dublin don’t have that medal haul. Nor do I think they’re helped by the fact that both their county championships were won by unheralded players, or by the fact that at the moment the best player on form was miles away from the county team during the trials. It just all looked a little like too much of an effort in Dublin this year. This probably reached its nadir in July with the Leinster and National Strokeplay when a Dublin player wasn’t within an ass’s roar of a title. But like the phoenix from the flames, and coinciding with the Dublin Scratch Cup series, the good performances seem to be coming back. All that taken into account, I was impressed by how they reacted in Cement. They were belligerent as the day wore on, and will probably count themselves a little unlucky that they didn’t pip Louth. It really impressed me I have to say, and my consideration on Dublin has changed this past week. A special word here for Junior Smith.  He can be marmite to some people, but I’ve great time for one of Dublin’s special sons, and I spent a considerable time in his company in Rocklodge. It is actually 30 years since he first played for Dublin, and given how remarkably fit he is, and the skill set that he is, there is no reason he can’t extend that record further. A remarkable achievement Junior, congratulations.

I didn’t hold out much hope for Down going into the Leinster Inter-co. As a one-club area, they’ve become a little ostracised in the past few years, and the heady days of dual Down/Armagh teams and the banter that brought with it, and the Leinster victory in Royal Meath seems an awful long time ago.
Work, emigration, apathy and remoteness have probably all combined to conspire against the Northern club. It’s easy when you’re in the heartland of the country with work or family to be able to hone your skills somewhere, but when you’re far removed as Cloghogue is, Pitch and Putt can go far down the list of priorities.
O’Hagan still endures on the county team, as did Conor O’Hare. O’Hare is probably not that much older than myself (still a young man then!) but he was one of the exciting players that looked likely to be on the way to the top when we were coming through to the adults, and the younger girls in the Pitch and Putt scene all seemed to enjoy watching him play (looking at you Kildare). But it never really happened, and a talent didn’t go wasted, but definitely didn’t reach its potential. In that respect it was great to see Conor back to good form in Cement, and a fine 48 was in the top 5 singles scores of the day.
They performed very well in Cement, and were less than a shot per round behind Offaly, Wexford and Kildare. That is definitely encouraging. The grand old Duke of Cloghogue Paul O’Hagan has been a mainstay of the Down team for 5 decades, since making his debut in 79, and he’ll need to improve on recent performances if Down are to make an impression.
Liam McMahon has grown into his role on the Down team and performed excellently in Leinster, but he misses Clonmel, and that will be a huge dent to the Down side. Pat McDonald replaces him, and what Pat concedes in raw ability he makes up for in experience. Quigley is a decent player, capable of shooting a good score, while Eddie Flynn and the other O’Hare, Cathal will need to reach their peak.

Longford’s private battle in Leinster (not that they’ll admit to it) was to make sure Monaghan didn’t beat them, and in that challenge they were successful. The Longford team suffers from a lack of competitiveness, but there are green shoots appearing. They had their first ever champion in the form of Tom Kelly in the Leinster Junior Matchplay <bandit> and they have started bringing in a few juveniles recently for Leinster events. I’ve written elsewhere of the two courses at their disposal, but still they need some stimulation.

Personally speaking I think they should be looking to Westmeath in the short-term, or to their midland neighbours in an early season league of some sort. A bit of competition on a regular basis will stand to them. Certainly I’ve played with the Comiskey’s, and they are good pitch and putt players, Noel Snr in particular. A realistic goal this weekend would be the try and finish ahead of Clare and/or Waterford. That would be a result worth celebrating.
I’d also use them as an example to the counties of Carlow and Kilkenny to get back involved, as I know there is interest in both those counties to get teams involved again. Similarly Monaghan have indicated it is only a matter of time before they enter a National team, so that becomes something of a mini-group within itself, if we were lucky to have these counties in our umbrella.

Westmeath were my tip for glory in Cement, and while they were all smiles on the surface, underneath I think they were seething. Not that my endorsement of them was false, quite the opposite, it was that with writing off Louth so conclusively, was the sporting equivalent of poking a bulldog in the eye with a stick. In other words, not clever! It meant that they were not coming in under the radar an art that they have cultivated well over the years.
This isn’t the best Westmeath team either, but this format will suit their extremely good team ethic, and I’m not sure there is a better team out there in doubles format. That will be the first task that they will need to complete – getting out of the blocks quickly. They’re weaker in the singles, but they can give themselves a fighting chance with the scotch. Martin Carter has been resolute in how he has conducted matters this year in his debut as manager, and there won’t be a better drilled team in Clonmel. Alan Hanlon does seem to be getting back to something close to the old Alan - no, the other one - that really terrorised Pitch and Putt from the mid 90’s to the mid 00’s.

Meath I can never get my head around. It’s not a joke anymore, and there is no point in saying otherwise. I just cannot get a read on them. I know they are passionate about Pitch and Putt up there, and they are fierce competitors, but sometimes it just seems like whatever will happen, will happen and life goes on. Maybe it’s because they’ve been void of that bit of fear that a county needs from time to time, as they would have had when Sean was at his best, and Somers too of course.  
Sean is still the talisman, but for a bit of craic, Somers is the best of the lot. He’s a genuinely good Pitch and Putt man, but when he realised he was playing with Donnelly in Cement that was it - he didn’t want to know. He is likely to be unpredictable this weekend, and playing foursomes with him is likely to be lively.
Eamon Gibney has come on in leaps and bounds the past couple of seasons, and is likely to be at the fore of any move they make. They were disappointing as a time in Cement, I expected more of them, but I can’t see them being poor in Hillview as well. A medal is probably asking a bit much, but they will be hovering there or thereabouts on Sunday afternoon.

Kerry are perennially being tipped as challengers, but a lot of the time they seem to be either 1 or 2 players short. Damien and Jonathon are their top performers, and Jason O’Regan is one of those players who could nearly have won a National. It’s after that that things get a little bit hazy. Declan McCarron is in good form – he carried his team well in the Scramble, and then followed it up with a good win in the Deerpark Scr Cup, and word has it that he is buzzing. So that should ease the burden. John McGrath will be interesting to watch. Impressed in last year’s National Stroke, but didn’t click in Wexford (he wasn’t alone there to be fair). Himself and Gavin Carroll will need to rise to a fitting level if the Kingdom are to make any mark on this Championship. That means an early start Gavin, ok?

Limerick should be a danger, and will need to be watched by Dublin and Cork. I’ve discussed them with a few people over the summer, and a few people seem to agree with me. Liam is still regarded as their best player – as it was put to me in Rocklodge, “you rise to a new level of respect when you win a National, but you go to a different level altogether when you win a National on a Cork course” and that is a feat that Noddy has achieved. He is still the easy-going gentleman that he always was, but he’s been plagued with injury and inconsistency. Still he’s been a great example for the likes of Hanley and Earls, two younger players that have added a bit of dynamism to this Limerick team, as it did need a bit of freshening up, and combined with Pacelli, that’s a foursome that is only bettered by Cork for quality. That are backed up by John Cunningham and Martin Keohane. John scored excellently in St. Anne’s (best of the day with 43), and not one word of a lie, Earls and Mick Darcy has sung his praises when I’ve chatted to them. Often when a noobe arrives on a team, you’ll ask for the inside line and the contact will say, nah we’re weaker, or he’s too fresh, but in this case they are all happy that Cunningham and Keohane are there. Martin is sure to be eager to prove his worth, and this is an excellent opportunity for him to reap the rewards. They need to strike for the front early though, and hopefully the class of the Four Muskateers will pull them along on Sunday.

Kildare I am never, ever going to write off again. They’ve had a decent season as individuals, with Frank Ryan and Joe Ronan obviously taking the plaudits, and as a team they’re dogged and resilient and will surely want to put on a good performance in memory of Paddy Slattery, a man who was central to the Kildare Inter-County efforts. A distinct memory I have is off the banter, and wallets, between Derek Courtney and Paddy Slattery at one of the Kildare-Dublin duels in McDonagh. Good times.
They probably don’t have the ammunition to make a real tilt at the title, but they are never that far back from bronze, and if they are still in with a shout by the start of the final singles, then they have enough qualify in Dillon, Ryan and Ronan to shoot big scores. Doubles will be crucial for them, and they’ll need to hit the ground running. Cathal Swift, Johnny Cullen and Darren Keogh have big roles to play, and will need to be in the groove for Kildare to go places.

Waterford are a special case. They have one of the games gems in Eddie Hennessy, and it is remarkable that they are still clinging on even after all the courses and players that have meandered away from the sport (and I’m sure there are more from yesteryear).
I’ve often wondered should we allow a system whereby a person who has left his county for economic reasons be able to represent his birth county irrespective of where the registration might be held, as this possibly would help some of the smaller counties, but then that could be seen as a proverbial two-fingers to those that labour at the coalface in such counties.
Waterford are playing for position this weekend, the same as any other weekend of the Inter-County Championship, just like Clare, Longford and the other counties that find themselves struggling. Playing to try and win the imaginary mini-league between these teams, and it is is a good championship. Really the Inter-County needs to be brought one step further for this, and allow a separate event for these teams to play for. As I’ve said in the past, if we can coax Monaghan and Carlow and Kilkenny in, then that is the guts of 7 teams that can duke out against each other. Because Waterford are no mugs either; Hennessy is a genius, but they have a decent quality throughout their team, with Robbie Walker and Billy Aspel being the well-known names. Chris Murray will be one to watch by the looks of things. He had a proud performance in Munster.  

Clare you could almost repeat the script written for Waterford. My heart goes out to Reynolds, as he’s had to endure NAMA and broken promises in his efforts with Declan Sheedy to try and get new clubs into the PPUI. Clare always bring a certain amount of panache to a Championship, 95% of that down to one Marty Fawl, or “Legend-killer” as St. Anne’s refer to him as. Registered in the Guinness Book of World Records as the only man to instruct Frank Dineen speechless, Fawl’s nonchalance betrays a keen sense of ability. There are no stars on this Clare team, they are all equally as capable as each other. Again competition is an issue, and it’s a disservice to just suggest going in with Limerick, as they are a proud County and have a decent past. Juveniles are the problem, and they need to come up with a solution to that soon. Unfortunately there isn’t a whole lot more to say for the Clare boys that wouldn’t be echoing what has been written elsewhere. They’re playing for pride, they know it, we know it, and until something changes drastically, that’s all she wrote. The small game in Dublin on Sunday is bound to be a distraction.

There is a tinge of sadness when previewing the Offaly team, with the news that the big Ciotog from the Slieve Blooms has been felled by illness, and I know the whole Pitch and Putt community will be firmly behind Mick Hogan, and hoping that he can back marauding the courses throughout the country asap. The Offaly lads are sure to be devastated as it now means there is no guarantee that Mick will finish last in the scoring, and nobody to scapegoat! Hogan is replaced by Jimmy Scanlon, and that’s not too bad a replacement.
Still a decent team, they were just let down by an uncharacteristically poor foursomes by Graham and William, otherwise, they were right in the mix for a medal.
They probably have fallen back a little from where they would have been 2 or 3 years ago, and I wonder is self-belief part of the problem? It shouldn’t because individually they have enough good performers, and players who have experience winning between Buckley, Maher, Newman and McGrath. One of the issues is trying to get 4 of the 6 firing well at the same time – no different to a lot of their peers. I think they’ll fall just short of a medal challenge, but they’ll not disgrace themselves.

Tipperary are hosts, and there is a lot of expectation around the county, somewhat contrary to the general feeling around the country I think. It has to be said that O’Brien is a massive loss, and when they were lining up as hosts two years ago, I don’t think they would have envisaged him being absent. Still they are more than a one-man bandwagon, and as so often happens in sport, perhaps O’Brien’s absence will liberate them?
They are going to heavily rely on their two home players, Joyce and Cleary, who will obviously know Hillview intimately. What concerns me is the form of their other players, as really local knowledge will only get you so far. The problem is that I’m struggling to see where the big scores will come from if they are needed.
The two Hillview players will give the team a platform to aim from; that much is guaranteed. Culhane is a very exciting player, and could quite possibly be the catalyst for them in Paul’s absence. James Ryan is quite a talent locally; a mystery might be a good adjective to use, as he seems to have flashes of brilliance and then long periods of average. Certainly he’ll need to be having more consistent flashes of brilliance if he wants a gold medal. Minogue will almost guarantee a solid Inter-county score. So that leaves Stephen Shoer.
He could be the kernel that the Tipperary challenge either falters or floats on. He’s had a well documented slump, and it remains to be seen how he’ll deal with pressure, because there is pressure on him tomorrow.
In St Anne’s (not allowing for circumstances) the doubles appeared to be an issue for scoring. I don’t know if they will line up differently, but if they don’t post a leaderboard score for one of the doubles, then I’d doubt them. To be fair, they’ve had stronger teams in the past, and haven’t finished the job off, so I’m not so confident on them tomorrow.
What could stand to them is that really, Cork aside there isn’t a whole lot going on, and at least 5 counties (Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Louth, Kerry) will be saying similar and targeting a medal. So they’re definitely in with a chance. But that constant nagging doubt is at me every time I think of them.

Wexford how we’re all indebted to you for your brilliance last year in Enniscorthy, and finally given us a new Champion. It was a great performance, and big questions were asked, and to a team you answered them well. Coming into a competition as holders gives you an aura that few other players playing this weekend will appreciate.
Now, it is a different kettle of Mackerel altogether in Hillview – you’re not on home soil, the Cork players will not be beside you to use as a target, and you’re not peaking for this one competition unlike last year – so will there be a different mindset adopted?
I know that Wexford were disappointed as they made the long trek back down the M1 from Drogheda last month. The mantle of Champions means a greater scrutiny of performance, and they will surely admit that the scoring in Cement was not good enough for them.
Certainly there will have been some harsh words in the intervening weeks I would assume, as they will need to perform to a higher level again this weekend.
The composition of the team has not changed much, with Shane Redmond being displaced by Dean Grannell, and Jim Foley replacing Kevin Doyle. Ironically, the two weakest singles- scores from last year have been replaced. Foley is a very, very good player (thankfully I can now tell Jim Foley apart from Bobby Foley), while Grannell has had a good season in 2013. So in theory they have strengthened their team (no disrespect to either Redmond or Doyle. I’ve great time for both players).
Paul Tobin, the hero of Parnell Avenue in 2012, has again shown fleeting glimpses of his natural talent, while O’Neill continues to furrow his lonely journey on the Leinster circuit. This will bear fruit eventually Martin. I said as the summer wore on that they would be better suited to Hillview than Cement, and that not to be too despondent if they didn’t place in Leinster. I stand by that, and I think they’ve a great shout of a medal. Again, the foundation of the doubles will be key.
So that’s it, my final preview - time for someone new to take over. Team profiles and predictions are underneath. Enjoy.

 
Cork: (Ranking)*    *as per PPUI ranking on 06/09/2013 @ 14.00
Ray Murphy (1)
John Walsh (6)
Chris Scannell (7)
Kieran Dunscombe (28)
Sean Doolin (N/A)
Donal Duggan (198)
2012 Position: 2nd
MVP: Ray Murphy
Anything else? Team includes current Double Irish Champion, and World Strokeplay Champion. Two debutants also
Prediction: 3rd – I don’t feel this is as good a Cork team as previous years.

Louth:

Ian Donnelly (57)
Sean Goggin (8)
John Campbell Snr (61)
John Campbell Jnr (N/A)
Shane Redmond (N/A)
Feichin Rath (N/A)
2012 Position: 11th
MVP: Sean Goggin
Anything else? Leinster Inter-County Winners. Former National Matchplay and Juvenile Strokeplay winner also.
Prediction: 8th – Very capable side, but the competition will be more fierce than in Cement.  

Dublin:
John Ross Crangle (3)
Mark Millar (17)
Skinner Malone (25)
Junior Smith (39)
Paul Nolan (21)
Chris Gallagher (30)
2012 Position: 3rd
MVP: Mark Millar
Anything else? Leinster Matchplay Champion, former National Strokeplay and National Matchplay winners on their side.
Prediction: 2nd – They’ve got the bit between their teeth, can go all the way if they believe in themselves

Down:
Paul O’Hagan (N/a)
Conor O’Hare (N/a)
Cathal O’Hare (N/a)
Eddie Flynn (N/a)
Niall Quigley (N/a)
Pat McDonald (N/a)
2012 Position: 12th
MVP: Conor O’Hare
Anything else? Pat McDonald first played inter-co in Ierne in 1972, a record timespan John Manning hopefully can confirm!
Prediction: 12th

Longford:
Francie Kelly (N/a)
Thomas Kelly (N/a)
Noel Comiskey Snr (201)
Noel Comiskey Jnr (N/a)
Roy Burke (111)
Declan Comiskey (N/a)
2012 Position: N/A
MVP: Noel Comiskey Snr
Anything else? Thomas Kelly brought the first championship across the border this year capturing the Leinster Junior Matchplay in Erry.
Prediction: 14th

Westmeath:
John Browne (83)
Alan Hanlon (66)
Rene Jan Bloem (38)
Pat Malone (46)
Mick Buckley (45)
Liam Buckley (63)
2012 Position: 9th
MVP: Alan Hanlon
Anything else? Alan Hanlon is a former international and is widely credited with playing a pivotal role in the renaissance of International Pitch and Putt.
Prediction: 6th – well capable of medalling, but need things to fall right for them

Meath:
Colin Somers (N/A)
Eamon Gibney (32)
Fintan Wogan (118)
Sean Downes (14)
Ian Farrelly (56)
Packie McBride (34)
2012 Position: 2nd
MVP: Eamon Gibney
Anything else? Downes record is legendary, while Farrelly is the current European Strokeplay Champion
Prediction: 10th – hard to see them mounting a consistant charge for a medal.

Kerry:
Damien Fleming (4)
Jason O’Regan (62)
Jonathon Goodall (1)
Declan McCarron (176)
John McGrath (55)
Gavin Carroll (80)
2012 Position: 5th
MVP: The Squirrel
Anything else? Goodall is a former National Strokeplay Champion, while Fleming has won the National Matchplay and the Irish Open.
Prediction: 8th – Could be a bit light around the fringes

Limerick:
Liam O’Donovan (49)
Thomas Hanley (43)
Pacelli Darcy (33)
Kieran Earls (23)
Martin Keohane (87)
John Cunningham (109)
2012 Position: 4th
MVP: Kieran Earls
Anything else? Liam O’Donovan is the last non-Cork man to win a National on Cork soil
Prediction: Winners – I’ve had a feeling about them for a number of weeks. Don’t pay attention to challenge results, these lads are capable of putting together a score in Hillview

Kildare:
Darren Keogh (69)
Frank Ryan (10)
Cathal Swift (171)
Ian Dillon (51)
Joe Ronan (15)
John Cullen (140)
2012 Position: 7th
MVP: Frank Ryan
Anything else? Nope
Prediction: 11th – will be pushed down the pecking order as midfield gets congested.

Waterford:
Eddie Hennessy (92)
Chris Murray (N/a)
Billy Aspel (N/a)
Daniel Sullivan (232)
Robert Walker (N/a)
Darren O'Sullivan (N/a)
2012 Position: 8th
MVP: Eddie Hennessy
Anything else? “I’ve managed to stay alive for 50 years, baby” as one famous sports commentator might say...
Prediction: 13th – will do well to replicate last year’s impressive performance.

Clare:
Ger Hanrahan (N/a)
Niall Seery (137)
Martin Fawl (53)
Kenneth Kerin (123)
Martin Walsh (N/a)
Declan Sheedy (127)
2012 Position: 14th
MVP: Marty Fawl
Anything else? Marty Fawl is a former National Seniors Winner
Prediction: 15th – wooden spoon!

Offaly:
Laurence Maher (27)
Joseph McGrath (Jnr) (37)
Jimmy Scanlon (67)
William Buckley (snr) (108)
William Buckley (Jnr) (11)
Graham Newman (60)
2012 Position: 13th
MVP: Larry Maher
Anything else? William Buckley Junior is a former National Strokeplay winner, and Irish international, while McGrath has won National team events in the past.
Prediction: 9th – likely to produce an improved performance in solidarity to Hogan.

Wexford:
William Hudson (155)
Conor Murphy (70)
Paul Tobin (29)
Dean Grannell (N/A)
Jim Foley (N/A)
Martin O’Neill (36)
2012 Position: Winners
MVP: Paul Tobin
Anything else? Nope.
Prediction: 5th – a real threat again this year; might just fall short.

Tipperary:
James Cleary (48)
Noel Joyce (18)
Anthony Culhane (19)
James Ryan (91)
Stephen Shoer (42)
Sean Minogue (151)
2012 Position: 10th
MVP: James Cleary
Anything else? Sean Minogue, like O’Hagan is now in his 5th decade of representing Tipp!
Prediction: 4th – I think pressure is going to tell on them.